Juju Migration

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Migration to the new FireWire driver stack

Watch this page for future updates on migration requirements. (Or better yet, add here what you know about it.)


Compatibility and stability

At the time of this writing (07/2008), there are still multiple problems with the new FireWire kernel driver stack (alias Juju) compared to the old stack:

  • Lacking userspace integration. See #Libraries.
  • Some missing features in the userspace ABI. See To Do.
  • Lack of testing. Therefore compatibility issues with some external devices, controllers and/or motherboards.
  • Problems with dvgrab on some OHCI 1.0 variants of VIA VT6306/6307 based cards. (VIA VT6307 and perhaps VT6306 chips can support OHCI 1.1 mode if reprogrammed to do so, see vt6307ohciver information at Links/Software/Utilities.) NVIDIA NForce2 and ALi M525x controllers don't work yet.
  • Missing IP over 1394 support.

Don't use the new drivers in Linux 2.6.22...2.6.25. They are too buggy.

Regarding Linux 2.6.26, the best advice to Linux distributors (kernel packagers) as well as to regular users is: Build only the old IEEE 1394 drivers. — Alternatively, build both stacks as modules but make sure that only one of them (the one you want) is being loaded. I.e. create proper blacklist entries in /etc/modprobe.conf; see below. Also, you need to upgrade your userland to libraw1394 v2 if you want to switch to the new drivers (or freely between old and new drivers).

In any case, whoever builds kernels, please mind the "EXPERIMENTAL" tag on the new driver stack's Kconfig prompt. Of course the developers like to hear if you are having trouble with the new drivers.

Why the migration?

The code base of the new stack is smaller, cleaner, and closer follows modern Linux kernel programming paradigms. There are already some features in the new stack which the old one lacks, notably bus manager capability and so-called gap count optimization. The latter provides a noticeable speedup of SBP-2 and other asynchronous protocols. Instead of 3 or 5 userspace interfaces in the old stack, there is a single universal interface in the new stack. Furthermore, there are some fundamental bugs and security considerations with the old stack which to a large part motivated the rewrite of the driver stack.

FIXME: Add a Wiki page on FireWire security.

Module auto-loading

How to get auto-loading

The drivers firewire-ohci and firewire-sbp2 contain the module aliases "pci:v*d*sv*sd*bc0Csc00i10*" and "ieee1394:ven*mo*sp0000609Ever00010483*" which should suffice with hotplug scripts and recent coldplug scripts to automatically load these two drivers when respective hardware is detected. The dependence of both drivers on firewire-core is of course recognized by modprobe.

If the kernel was configured without ohci1394 and sbp2 as modules, then firewire-core and firewire-sbp2 also contain the module aliases ohci1394 and sbp2 respectively. That is, "modprobe ohci1394" will load firewire-ohci (and firewire-core) instead of ohci1394 if ohci1394 was excluded from the kernel build.

How to suppress auto-loading

To avoid confusion, it is recommended that either the old or the new driver stack is built, but not both together. It is nevertheless possible to build and install both stacks together. If you chose to do so, you may want to add lines like

#blacklist firewire-ohci
#blacklist firewire-sbp2

blacklist ohci1394
blacklist sbp2
blacklist dv1394
blacklist raw1394
blacklist video1394

to /etc/modprobe.d/file_of_your_choice or /etc/modprobe.conf to suppress auto-loading of one of the stacks. Very old modutils which do not support the blacklist keyword can be instructed by

# install firewire-ohci /bin/true
# install firewire-sbp2 /bin/true

install ohci1394 /bin/true
install sbp2 /bin/true
install dv1394 /bin/true
install raw1394 /bin/true
install video1394 /bin/true

to suppress loading of one of the stacks.

Character device files, block device files

Basic operation

Out of the box, udevd and udev scripts automatically create and remove

  • /dev/fw* devices exposed by firewire-core (for use by libraries like libraw1394 and libdc1394, provided the libraries are updated),
  • /dev/{sd,sg,sr,st}* devices exposed by SCSI command set drivers (sd_mod, sg, sr_mod, st) with firewire-sbp2 underneath.

Extra features

By evaluating information in firewire-core's sysfs files, it is possible to automatically adapt file permissions and ownership of /def/fw* files according to device types. Files pertaining to local nodes (the controllers) and SBP-2 nodes should get restrictive file permissions and ownership. Files pertaining to AV/C nodes (camcorders, set-top boxes, and the like) and IIDC nodes (industrial cameras, some webcams) can get liberal permissions so that they are accessible to application programs without root privilege.

FIXME: Explain how to set file permissions based on device properties.

The /dev/disk/by-id/* symlinks which reasonably recent udev scripts create for FireWire harddisks look per default a little bit different with firewire-sbp2 versus sbp2. To make them look exactly the same, add the following to /etc/modprobe.d/file_of_your_choice or /etc/modprobe.conf:

options sbp2 long_ieee1394_id=y

This option has been added to sbp2 in Linux 2.6.22.

Hald support

It has been reported that firewire-sbp2 driven disks don't show up on desktops, even though they are recognized by the drivers and can be manually mounted just fine.

FIXME: Is special support by hald required?


Scripts which generate initrd (an initial RAM disk used during boot) may need to be updated to deal with the new kernel module names firewire-core, firewire-ohci, firewire-sbp2. Scripts within initrd may already work with the new drivers, see #Module auto-loading.



Compatibility with the new drivers is only available in the brand-new libraw1394 v2. This version is able to transparently switch between old and new stack, depending on which drivers you have loaded.

Either get libraw1394 2.0.0 or later, or build libraw1394 from a fresh git checkout:

$ git clone git://dennedy.org/libraw1394
$ cd libraw1394/
$ autoreconf -fi
$ ./configure
$ make
$ sudo make install

Note the following requirements:

You need headers from a kernel with Juju support (at least 2.6.22 headers, better 2.6.24 headers). It may be necessary to install a recent kernel-headers package. Or you can point libraw1394's configure to a directory with these headers with "./configure --with-fw-dir=<dir>".

The Juju backend of libraw1394 requires the inotify kernel interface. If you have got an old libc which does not contain support for inotify, you can have a look at the following patches for libraw1394: patch 1, patch 2. They don't apply to recent versions of libraw1394 anymore though.


There is compatibility with libdc1394 v2, released in January 2008. Many deployed libdc1394 applications still use the older libdc1394 v1 though which has no support for the Juju drivers.

Depending on your distribution, libdc1394 v2 packages may exist with enabled Juju support. On Gentoo Linux, the "juju" use flag enables Juju support.

If life on the bleeding edge appeals to you, you can check libdc1394 v2 out from Subversion and build it with Juju support by the following steps:

$ svn co https://libdc1394.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libdc1394
$ cd libdc1394/trunk/libdc1394/
$ autoreconf -fi
$ ./configure --with-juju-dir=/usr/src/linux/include
$ make
$ sudo make install

Note, the "--with-juju-dir" switch disables support for the old ieee1394 stack. If you want to switch back to the old drivers, you have to run "./configure" without this switch, rebuild, and reinstall libdc1394.

FFmpeg: libavformat

Alas the dv1394 module of FFmpeg's libavformat has not been ported to firewire-core yet. This particularly affects players like MPlayer and Xine.

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